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Who's Your Presidential Candidate?
Donald Trump 60%  60%  [ 3 ]
Ted Cruz 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Jeb Bush 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Marko Rubio 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
John Kasich 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Ben Carson 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Bernie Sanders 20%  20%  [ 1 ]
Hiliary Clinton 20%  20%  [ 1 ]
Total votes : 5
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 3:06 pm 
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[u]The Democratic Day after the big Primary of California June 7th 2016 .......well I been silent quite a while because this whole process was unfolding. Last night Hillary Clinton made History as the first woman to be the nominee of a major party for the President of the United States. in her speech after clinching the delegates, she praised Sen. Sanders for a well-run campaign and welcomed his support and that of his followers.

Then Sen. Sanders gave his speech to his supporters after losing to Hillary Clinton the state of California, New Jersey, New Mexico the three largest delegate prizes of the six states that day. Sen. Sanders had a golden opportunity to unite the Democratic Party in moving forward in a positive posture to congratulate Hillary Clinton for her accomplishments of history in the making and then get behind the Democratic Party to defeat the ilk of GOP- Donald Trump. However, he chose another road !! The road not of a true Democrat ( he's not) , but the road of a self-serving socialist who is in it for his own interest and not that of the Democratic party in which he used as a vehicle to get him to this point in the first place ! And now Sen. Sanders wishes to go to the convention in Philadelphia to change the election process at the DNC. You have got to be kidding me! A piece of ~*/~ that he has turned out to be after this display of non-party compliance shows his true colors.

Sen. Sanders is a draft dodger who wouldn't fight for his country when called upon in his younger years and now when running for President as a Democrat instead of on his true political party which is a Socialistic Independent, He is now called upon by the Democratic Party, which he chose to use, to now do the right thing and withdraw from the campaign and unite his supporters for their betterment of the Democratic Party. But oh no.......... not Bernie ....his political revolution isn't over .....even though it is absolutely impossible to achieve any super delegates to turn against the popular vote and dramatic lead of pledged delegate votes that Hillary has over Bernie Sanders. I truly "feel the burn" has reached a new low in his career !!!



[b]" Sanders had a golden opportunity to unite the Democratic Party in moving forward in a positive posture to congratulate Hillary Clinton for her accomplishments"

Here's the funny thing between Trump & GOP, Sanders and Clinton. They are all very different. When this is over, we will basically have 2 parties split in 2. Many Democrats are voting for Trump. Some Republicans are voting for Clinton. The people who support Trump and Sanders are basically the same in nature, but on different ends of the political spectrum. I'd rather see Trump win over Clinton. But I'd rather not see either one win. Sanders and Clinton are 2 very different candidates. Sanders supporters won't vote for Clinton because of the years of scandals, the on-going FBI investigation (Do you think she didn't do anything wrong? If so, do we give amnesty then to
Thomas Drake, Shamai Leibowitz, Bradley Manning, Jeffrey Sterling, John Kiriakou, Edward Snowden and General David Petraeus?), her S-PACs (foreign shadow money donors), they have way different views (opposite) on trade, wars, Wall St bailouts, Patriot Act, Glass-Steagall and many more. Again, the point is, they are very different. Even though the DNC allowed Sanders to run on the democratic ticket, which they probably thought would be a joke anyways which has majorly backfired, he's not a corrupt corporate democrat at heart. And many of us have let ethics and moral slide in voting "for the lesser evil" for too many years, but we've had enough. "Enough is enough!" I'm done supporting candidates that tell you how bad something is, like Clinton saying she wants to get money out of politics because it's really bad, when at the same time she's flying all over the country to corporate fundraisers. And it's about integrity. Like the landing under sniper fire lie, the Nance Reagan aids lie, so many flip-flops, the I did everything by the law (2015) in regards to her emails to the Inspector General's report saying the opposite (2016), on and on.

Her supporters and Sanders supporters don't see eye to eye. And even if Sanders had united behind her (thank God he didn't), many supporters wouldn't and won't, because if being a democrat means it's ok for Pay-to-play politics, for money revolving door bought by lobbyist policies, we don't want to be part of that party. Which is why there's a movement to #DumpDemsDay July 29th. Many will either be Independents, register as Green or Libertarian, or as I will probably try and register in the United Progressive Party (riseupp.org, unitedprogressiveparty.org) and support that party going forward.

My support will be behind UPP, Brand New Congress, The Other 98% (other98.com) , Represent.us. I won't support either Democrats or Republicans because the system is broken. And it's throwing money at incumbents who don't have the people's interest first unless you're buying your way in as a corporation or lobbyist.

Have you seen the democratic exit polls this year? Read up. And he's not a "draft dodger" - false claim. Also, with just the people's support , while the DNC back stabbed him and w/media blackout against him, he's claimed 46% of the vote and why is it he still polls higher beating Trump than Clinton? How is that possible when she has more votes?

Nearly 50% of Bernie Sanders supporters won't vote for Clinton: (This is why she loses to Trump and this is why Superdelgates will only get one chance to make the right choice for the stronger against Trump candidate)
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-06-22/nearly-half-of-sanders-supporters-won-t-support-clinton



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 11:57 am 
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There is an old quote from the beginnings of this country, something to the efffect of the tree of liberty has to be refreshed once in a while by the blood of patriots. That particular tree feeds just as well on the blood of fools, idiots and traitors. I happen know where there is a building full of them. Too bad they won't figure out that they should be doing what is best for the country and it's citizens, instead of their own agenda, and lining their pockets at the expense of us all, no matter what comes.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 12:16 pm 
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Just doing a check in.

Trump is the golden boy for RNC. What do you think of Pence? To me, wrong choice if he wanted to gain more support from Bernie supporters.

Hillary is still a bad choice. New Wikileaks leaks are gaining popular attention. And to slap in the face and kill many hopes of unity from Bernie supporters, she picks Tim Kaine. Who? Tim Kaine. Who? A moderate, 3rd highest taker of Wall St donations, free trader supporter and as far from Bernie Sanders as you can be. In my opinion, she just totally killed her chances.

There's some data out there that shows how Hillary does in the polls when running for Senate and vs Obama. In all the polls, she never rises, but her opponents do. And as Trump polling numbers are going up, she's dropping. And the stats say, that's where she'll stay. Trump wins vs Clinton. But only time will tell. I know I won't vote for her and many won't.

Hence where I've been. I'm helping form a 3rd party or down the road. Can't do anything this year. Except tell people we don't back the Democratic party in their platform choices, their VP pick or presidential pick. Hillary could have picked Sanders or Warren. But they would be thorns in her side every day fighting against her policy agenda of keeping big money in politics and in the hands of politicians. Kaine =super safe bet, like big money and someone she can control.

I'm out of the democratic party. Never going back unless. I hope to supporting future candidates in the United Progressive Party riseupp.org I'm getting out of the rigged party system and hope to support honest everyday people (brandnewcongress.org). So my detect time is limited.

Trump had his day. Let's see how Hillary's DNC party goes. My guess, not going to go very well. Keep and eye on her poll numbers. They will continue to drop, and drop and drop.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:16 am 
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I don't know anything about either VP pick, so won't go there. Dems keep stepping on their cranks, and I can't see anything changing for the good if she is in office. Repubs, not a whole lot better, but at least he is an outsider and not entrenched is the dirty politics, yet.

But in any case, the changes will have to happen in the House and Senate before anything really changes, one way or another.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:15 pm 
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Third party ........... what is an Eleppo ????? :lol: :lol: :lol: Also, The Trumps and their ideas of "Skittles" truly is deplorable !!! The Don has no truth to any of his rants ...... Lie #10k .....what a real Loooooser !


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Well today is the day before history is made for the first USA women President ! They (GOP) tried to spin lies and BS, but they cannot make anything stick to the wall. Trump and crew will be forgot for ever and thank God for this !!! HISTORY IS HERE !!!!


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OldTom wrote:
Well today is the day before history is made for the first USA women President ! They (GOP) tried to spin lies and BS, but they cannot make anything stick to the wall. Trump and crew will be forgot for ever and thank God for this !!! HISTORY IS HERE !!!!

WOW !!!!!! :shock: WAS I and damm near everyone...... WRONG On THIS Election !!!! Even Trump was shocked he won !!!!! I just hope for the sake of the Country, he will do his best that he can and not listen to others if it is not for the good of the people. He may turn out to be very good as a President .......we all got to give him a chance ! I hope I'm not to be wrong on this like I was on the election .....LoL :lol:


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My car still has 3 Bernie stickers on it to remind all Democrats that the polls always had Bernie beating Trump.

I still believe the DNC screwed this election up with their media blackout of Bernie, tried to bury him, refused proper debate times, etc. And the wikileaks emails, imo, put a nail in her back. When those emails started to come out, the Democrats DNC & superdelegates should have listened.

And from what I'm reading, the Democrats didn't learn & are doing the same mistakes all over again. The party is divided. The old Dem ways are dead. Time will only tell. Just like with every president


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